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	<title>Comments on: OptionsXpress Holdings (OXPS) &#8211; Un-Noticed Value Building</title>
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		<title>By: camiseta del barcelona</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-22218</link>
		<dc:creator>camiseta del barcelona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 12:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Safe-keeping pocket is situated around the tailgate end from the palm grip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safe-keeping pocket is situated around the tailgate end from the palm grip.</p>
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		<title>By: jackson</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-7162</link>
		<dc:creator>jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what does the payment for order flow line really mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what does the payment for order flow line really mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Borisb</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-4253</link>
		<dc:creator>Borisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOG-  i  went ahead and closed this  in premarket 516s just to be defensive.      CMGs    if the  dip  deepens in front of earnings, for whatever reason,  longs would be better setup.   YUM!  and Wendys have  fallen on earnings today, 2/4,   maybe the group or a downgrade work as downside catalyst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOG-  i  went ahead and closed this  in premarket 516s just to be defensive.      CMGs    if the  dip  deepens in front of earnings, for whatever reason,  longs would be better setup.   YUM!  and Wendys have  fallen on earnings today, 2/4,   maybe the group or a downgrade work as downside catalyst.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris - I have always found it interesting that the &quot;B&quot; shares trade at such a discount.  But because the liquidity is greater with the A shares and because the discount seems to continue, I have found it easier to trade the A shares.  If I were holding long-term it would probably make more sense to own the B shares.

GOOG is down another $20 as I write.  I&#039;m not saying that your long position will not work.  Only that the stock is very volatile and often stocks that ran &quot;too far&quot; on the positive side also run &quot;too far&quot; when they decline.  I really do hope you make money on the trade.  I&#039;m just not brave enough to put my own capital to work there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris &#8211; I have always found it interesting that the &#8220;B&#8221; shares trade at such a discount.  But because the liquidity is greater with the A shares and because the discount seems to continue, I have found it easier to trade the A shares.  If I were holding long-term it would probably make more sense to own the B shares.</p>
<p>GOOG is down another $20 as I write.  I&#8217;m not saying that your long position will not work.  Only that the stock is very volatile and often stocks that ran &#8220;too far&#8221; on the positive side also run &#8220;too far&#8221; when they decline.  I really do hope you make money on the trade.  I&#8217;m just not brave enough to put my own capital to work there.</p>
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		<title>By: Borisb</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>Borisb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZACH,   what is  so  &quot;bad news&quot;  about  google that you object to giving  a seemingly  low $515 long your blessing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZACH,   what is  so  &#8220;bad news&#8221;  about  google that you object to giving  a seemingly  low $515 long your blessing?</p>
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		<title>By: BorisB</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-4238</link>
		<dc:creator>BorisB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 15:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZACH,  did you know    CMG &quot;B&quot;  shares  trade for a  discount of  20%+  to   &quot;A&quot;  sahres  even though  eps  and all other rights are 100%  identical?   this interest me because if you are  angling for a  super sized  dip   from   $155   the  &quot;B&quot; shares  have traded down to the  80s/90s.  maybe not perfect but  quite  a  pull  back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZACH,  did you know    CMG &#8220;B&#8221;  shares  trade for a  discount of  20%+  to   &#8220;A&#8221;  sahres  even though  eps  and all other rights are 100%  identical?   this interest me because if you are  angling for a  super sized  dip   from   $155   the  &#8220;B&#8221; shares  have traded down to the  80s/90s.  maybe not perfect but  quite  a  pull  back.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,  Thanks for your expertise!

Management credibility is definitely worth considering in any analytic process.  I will go back and see what language was used over the last few quarters regarding the penny pilot program.  

I have to say, from a traders perspective, I am really excited about the prospect of trading options in pennies and look forward to when this program reaches some of the less liquid stocks I trade in.

Boris - I&#039;m glad you were able to sidestep the GOOG disaster.  Good luck with the position.  You are a braver man than I :)

Thanks guys for the comments.
ZDS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,  Thanks for your expertise!</p>
<p>Management credibility is definitely worth considering in any analytic process.  I will go back and see what language was used over the last few quarters regarding the penny pilot program.  </p>
<p>I have to say, from a traders perspective, I am really excited about the prospect of trading options in pennies and look forward to when this program reaches some of the less liquid stocks I trade in.</p>
<p>Boris &#8211; I&#8217;m glad you were able to sidestep the GOOG disaster.  Good luck with the position.  You are a braver man than I <img src='http://zachstocks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks guys for the comments.<br />
ZDS</p>
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		<title>By: BorisB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BorisB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thankyou  for google red flag post.  i had  some optomistism for    goog  a few months  ago but  stayed on the sidelines.  i opened a small long term  long today  after the earnings crusher,  way below the high point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thankyou  for google red flag post.  i had  some optomistism for    goog  a few months  ago but  stayed on the sidelines.  i opened a small long term  long today  after the earnings crusher,  way below the high point.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://zachstocks.com/2008/02/optionsxpress-holdings-oxps-un-noticed-value-building/comment-page-1/#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think the Payment for Order Flow line is the primary issue here.  For someone like Etrade this revenue line is actually an expense line.  I think this is what will happen to OXPS.  

What will exacerbate this is the make or take model that some exchanges are using (e.g., Arca).  I believe this approach will win (it&#039;s winning in the equity markets).  Since most of OXPS&#039;s retail trades are liquidity taking this could make the PfOF revenues turn to expenses even more quickly.  I do agree they are growing quickly and this will offset some of this. Nevertheless it&#039;s a headwind. 

But I do not believe the company when they say they are trying creative ways to monetize their flow.  Last quarter they claimed that the penny pilot would not impact them and that is clearly not the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think the Payment for Order Flow line is the primary issue here.  For someone like Etrade this revenue line is actually an expense line.  I think this is what will happen to OXPS.  </p>
<p>What will exacerbate this is the make or take model that some exchanges are using (e.g., Arca).  I believe this approach will win (it&#8217;s winning in the equity markets).  Since most of OXPS&#8217;s retail trades are liquidity taking this could make the PfOF revenues turn to expenses even more quickly.  I do agree they are growing quickly and this will offset some of this. Nevertheless it&#8217;s a headwind. </p>
<p>But I do not believe the company when they say they are trying creative ways to monetize their flow.  Last quarter they claimed that the penny pilot would not impact them and that is clearly not the case.</p>
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